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im actually proud to say i dont use scripts. i play for the fun of it, and hope that not usuing scripts will only help me to get better. im not so impressed if someone kills me cause they had help through a script. its no longer like being one on one. i dont know i may be old fashioned but whats the point. its like you need help to be good. i would love to see how some people play without the scripts.

*Last edited by Audhumla on Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:35 pm; edited 1 time in total*

Most scripts that people use are out of convenience. Like reload scripts. Reload scripts are a great example of solid, non-exploitatious, convenience scripts. Mine simply makes it so whenever I hit w, a, s, or d, it issues both a movement command and a reload command. Simple and sweet. Most of my scripts only do two things, like move and reload, or toss the flag and tell me team I tossed the the flag. The most advanced script I use is a pipedown, and thats only for tricky cap points or pipejump maps.

The argument about scripts brings up the EXACT same points about bar-raping in DDR.

That is bar-raping. When you play DDR, some players hold onto that bar the whole time while they play. This helps provide balance and stability, but at times hinders gameplay when you need to twist your upper body a lot. Just like how scripts help gameplay but at times can hurt it (constant reload animation, some keys not processing).

Those who are all for bar-raping bring up points that "It's there, why not use it?" "I'm only playing to my full potential" "If you don't like it, you don't have to use it" "The developers put it there for a reason".

Sound familiar?

Those who oppose it say "It's a crutch" "It's a handicap" "If we took it away from you, you couldn't play for crap" "I think the developers intended it to be temporarily used to regain balance, not to whore the whole time" "Someone who doesnt use the bar is better than someone who does"

Again, sound familiar?

My stance is this: Yes, it does make gameplay easier. But there's nothing wrong with that at all. It is a gameplay mechanic clearly presented for the players to use, and requires no outside assitance or cheating. It's simply taking advantage of an opportunity given to you. Someone who doesn't use it is not better than someone who does on the basis that they do not use it. This goes for both bar-raping and scripting. When it comes to TFC, there are plenty of ways to make things easier that I am sure nobody else would consider cheating: Having a good mouse/mousepad/keyboard/computer. Playing with crosshairs that stand out more.
When it comes to DDR (or any athletic activity), you could: wear shorts, drink gatorade, wear good shoes, and so on. All those options do exactly what scripting and bar-raping do. Make things easier. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Forum Trolls Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 12

*Last edited by ChiShun on Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:23 pm; edited 1 time in total*

i have a few scripts too...This is some autoexec.cfg

toggles weapon models good for ac conc aim and sniper somtimes demo

Forum H4xor Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 1172

i cant get my class.cfgs to work. someone just list what you have to do to make one and where it goes. apparently im doing something wrong again as usual.

A class config is put in your tfc folder and is named after the class it's for...ie, spy.cfg, demoman.cfg, soldier.cfg...etc.

Remember: when saving a config file using notepad, make sure to select "all files" as the type...or it won't be saved as a true config file.

Also...the last line of all your configs should read:

echo spy.cfg loaded

This obviously, is an example of what should be the last line in your spy cfg file. "spy.cfg loaded" will show in your console as executed...that's what the "echo" command does. You won't have to guess whether or not the config file was read and should be working.

Nice examples Chi Good Idea

To have them exec automaticly put this line in your autoexec.cfg and make sure all the class CFG's are the exact same names as mine

setinfo "ec" "1"

1 word for scripts...L A Z Y !!!

LOl lets not start the whole scripts are crap and what not deal Very Happy

but most of my scripts you cant complain about

So Chips, about ETAA....?

Well...you were not there when I actually loaded it early...I tried it this past Monday, the 10th. It constantly crashed the server. One (or more) of the other mods we're now running is conflicting with it. It works fine, obviously, when it's the only mod running...like on the practice server.

It was suggested to me that it's probably the radio mod where the conflict lies...I was hoping to test this theory on my home server tomorrow. But, I did enable it on our main and played several rounds with just a few people with no problems. The crashes seem to occur when the server is more populated...and I truly don't know why at the moment. This is the error from the server logs when it happens:
L 10/10/2005 - 18:44:24: FATAL ERROR (shutting down): NUM_FOR_EDICT: bad pointer
If anyone would like to help me track down this error and what causes it, I'd appreciate the help. These are the mods we run:

FoxBot
Adminmod
STATSME
Fireworks
ChickenMod
Hook Mod
RadioMod
ETANA

By the way...this is what it will do once activated:

Features
Locks tracerlength, traceroffset, tracerspeed, cl_lw
Detects _special
Disables fullupdate
Enforces default explosion sprites and ax1.wav
Plugin logs important events
Plugin works correctly with servers containing bots

Forum H4xor Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 1172

how can i make the keys return to normal binds for other classes. i.e. engineer i have x to make a dispenser but for rest of classes i want it to be normal drop pack. am i gonna have to go through and put em in individually into my classes or is there an easier way which i figure there is.