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Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:25 am
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Forum Trolls
Joined: 23 Jun 2007
Posts: 5
Location: Mulino, Oregon
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The demo is a little suspicious! but I am no dispute admin like good ol chips |
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Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:42 pm
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Forum Soldier
Joined: 12 Nov 2005
Posts: 312
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I watched the clip and honestly, it doesn't really seem like he was hacking. I'd say two shots out of all the shots he made in that game were above average for a seasoned tfc player like Rebs.
I'm a personal friend of Rebel_Leader AKA Boris, and he has told me himself that earlier that day he was messing with cheats for tfc with his little brother, and then turned them off to play in a public server, was doing pretty well, and got accused of hacking.
Boris has always been exceptional at tfc. I have gone to his house and watched him play, killing one guy after another with no cheats whatsoever, thinking to myself how freaking good he is. Then I sit down at the desk and play and suck. Honestly if you really take the time to consider the video from both sides instead of going into it with an attitude, you'll notice the shots aren't quite as "suspicious" as you originally thought.
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Sun Jul 01, 2007 6:56 pm
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Forum H4xor
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
Posts: 1567
Location: Idaho
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Y'all probably don't know what you're talking about with hax. I fully trust the judgement that he hacked on that server.
I don't think that means he should be banned here, though. Need I remind you of Muchez's judgement (multiple times, no less)? He got caught for hacking HERE how many times? What's his current ban status?
Overall, Rebs is a good guy, and I doubt many of you would try to deny that. There's a number of us who enjoy his company, and he clearly wants to stay. I've also never seen any evidence that he's hacked here (and doubt such evidence exists.) I really don't feel like he's hacked here, though that's just my personal opinion chipping in. |
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Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:32 pm
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Forum H4xor
Joined: 05 Oct 2005
Posts: 1172
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its quite frustrating for people that dont actually know anything about hacks, to tell everyone that theres nothing on that demo, because youre just wrong im sorry. regardless of how good someone is, things just dont happen in tfc over and over like that. ive liked rebs so its not like ive got this vendetta out to get him and such so that argument is throw out, yet even if it was falcon or cc or chips himself, i would be seeing the exact same shots and tracking that look quite obvious. im not giving my opinion as to if he should be banned here, and im definately not saying taht he is a bad person, but on that demo it is quite apparent to me that he was hacking. |
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:09 am
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Forum H4xor
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
Posts: 1922
Location: eugene,OR
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:32 pm
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Forum H4xor
Joined: 07 Aug 2005
Posts: 2103
Location: South Amboy, New Jersey
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well i think chips has to come out and make the last post and say what has to be said, because i just think we're done here...i'd just hate to see this turn into something more than what it is right now. |
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:46 pm
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Forum Soldier
Joined: 12 Nov 2005
Posts: 312
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I agree. Also, just because it looks like he's hacking doesn't prove that he is. I know how wall hacks work, I know how aimbot works, my cousin uses them all the time in cs. I can tell you that in my honest opinion he wasn't using either one. |
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:46 pm
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Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 6505
Location: New Jersey
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Perm banned.
Others that have encountered the same fate, are now back. Perhaps one day. |
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Mon Jul 02, 2007 9:25 pm
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Forum Sniper
Joined: 06 Dec 2004
Posts: 748
Location: LI, NY
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I get small changes to enhance gameplay; crosshairs, jump scripts, reload, etc. I've seen Chips post screen shots with toon models. All fun. The only place for cheat scripts is your own home game. Wanna enable noclip to get past a tough conc map jump, woohoo, have at it.
Absolutely no sympathy for cheaters.
You can respawn spam, chase, play like an ass all day if you like. At least we're all equal, I can do the same to you and your team if I like. But when you cheat you take away the only rule of the game (other then the underlying physics) that we all share.
I don't consider funny and engaging chat conversation sufficient criteria for the title of "good guy".
I appreciate the careful consideration, it's a sign of respect to the accused player. After the facts revealed a cheater, a perm ban is a sign of respect to the rest of us. Thanks Chips. |
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:15 am
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Forum Sniper
Joined: 15 Apr 2007
Posts: 524
Location: Goleta(about 1-2 hours above LA)
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Wow, well put AOM. I guess in your long years in this world, you've gathered some wisdom |
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:15 am
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Forum HW
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 838
Location: Sydney, Australia
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How do I go about playing the demo? |
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 9:00 am
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Forum Soldier
Joined: 08 May 2005
Posts: 273
Location: Canada
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:10 am
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Forum HW
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 838
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Snake wrote: |
viewdemo demoname |
Thanks Snake.
Is the demo in any particular resolution because playing it blanks out my screen, says "out of range" and then crashes TFC. |
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:35 am
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Forum H4xor
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
Posts: 1567
Location: Idaho
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AngryOldMan wrote: |
Absolutely no sympathy for cheaters.
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*COUGH* MUCHEZ *COUGH* MILES *COUGH* BLADE *COUGH* SOMEONEELSEI'MFORGETTING *COUGH*
Darn allergies. |
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Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:13 am
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Grand High Exalted Mystic Ruler
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
Posts: 6505
Location: New Jersey
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1) Open TFC
2) Select "Create Server"
3) Start on any randon map
4) type "viewdemo" or "playdemo" in your console.
One way allows you to use controls similar to a vcr...the other just views.
I can almost assure you all that rebs will be back one day. I like him personally and always enjoyed playing with him. Despite that...as Angry said, this is being done for the rest of us. |
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